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  • #1729968 返信
    single_xfon
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    OK — have been messing about with this thing for about six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me last week. Am based in the UK, mainly do football and horses, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    What got me on it was genuinely embarrassing — I could never get my head round what an each way payout actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just guess and then be surprised. Now I type the odds in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator tool is the one I use most — you put in stake and odds and you get the return instantly, fractions or decimals. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, and that’s where I’d always lose track. Have a go yourself, it’s over at [url=https://singlebettingcalculator.uk/bet-calculator/odds-converter]bookies odds converter[/url] — free, no signup.

    The thing that really made a difference is the geekier extras. There’s an odds-to-probability converter and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too for when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. The interface looks a bit basic — not much polish, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it works but the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but you asked.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, works. Anyone who honestly works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — it’s saved me a fair few “wait, that’s it?” moments.

    #1729969 返信
    single_clon
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    So — been using this thing for maybe four months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d chuck my thoughts in since someone asked me a few days back. I’m UK based, generally bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, for context.

    How I found it was genuinely a bit daft — I couldn’t ever work out what an e/w return would be when the place terms changed. Basically I’d wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now I stick my stake in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I open most — you put in stake and odds and it shows profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. It also handles the bigger stuff — acca and treble maths, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where most people I know lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here [url=https://singlebettingcalculator.uk]ew single bet calculator[/url] and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    One thing that really changed how I bet is the nerdier tools. The implied probability calculator and it makes obvious the overround, and a kelly calculator — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are terrifying. The dutching one is decent for when I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. The design looks very functional, let’s say — not much frills, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s usable although the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — doesn’t bother me just flagging it.

    So yeah. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, does what it says. Anyone who even now works out returns on a calculator app, try it — saves me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

    #1729970 返信
    single_uhon
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    Right — been on this thing for about four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d say something since a mate asked me a few days back. I’m UK based, mostly do football and horses, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I never could get my head round what an e/w payout would be once you get five places instead of three. I used to just guess and then be surprised. Now punch the numbers in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator is the one I use most — type in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — acca and treble maths, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that’s where I always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it’s here [url=https://singlebettingcalculator.uk/bet-calculator/kelly-criterion]kelly strategy calculator[/url] and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that really shifted things for me is the nerdier tools. They’ve got an probability converter that shows how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly calculator — I use half kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is decent when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. The layout feels pretty plain — no polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s usable but the bigger tables are a squeeze. Also there’s no proper app, just the site — fine by me just flagging it.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, works. If you even now does the maths on paper, give it a go — saves me a fair few “wait, that’s it?” moments.

    #1729971 返信
    single_auon
    ゲスト

    So — been on this thing for something like six months now and I keep coming back, so figured I’d say something since a mate asked me last week. Am in the UK, generally do football and horses, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew return actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just eyeball it and then be surprised. Now I punch the numbers in first, every time, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the part I’m on daily — you put in stake and odds and it spits out returns straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, which is where most people I know lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at [url=https://singlebettingcalculator.uk/bet-calculator/yankee]super yankee calculator[/url] — free, no signup.

    What actually shifted things for me were the more serious bits. The odds-to-probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, plus a kelly staking tool — I use half kelly since full stakes are a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutch tool is handy too when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its interface feels a bit basic — zero polish, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it works although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. There’s no app, just the site — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    Anyway. Free, barely any ads, does the job. If anyone still does the maths on paper, have a look — it’s saved me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

    #1729972 返信
    single_gron
    ゲスト

    So — been on this thing for about six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me a few days back. I’m in the UK, mostly stick to footie and the horses, small stakes, for context.

    What got me on it was genuinely embarrassing — I could never figure out what an each way return actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just wing it and get a shock. Now stick my stake in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator is the bit I’m on daily — type in the price and your stake and it spits out the return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the multiples — trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. If you want a look, it’s over at [url=https://singlebettingcalculator.uk/bet-calculator/patent]49s patent lottery bet calculator[/url] and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    The thing that genuinely shifted things for me were the more serious tools. There’s an implied probability converter which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly staking calculator — I use half kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutching one is decent when I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. The interface feels pretty plain — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s usable though the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame just flagging it.

    Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, works. If you still works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saved me plenty of arguments with the bookie.

    #1729976 返信
    single_nsEa
    ゲスト

    Right — been on this thing for maybe four months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d write something up since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, generally bet football and racing, small stakes, so take it how you like.

    The reason I started using it was actually a bit daft — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an each way payout actually was when the place terms changed. I used to just guess and then be surprised. Now punch the numbers in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the part I open most — you put in stake and odds and you get the return instantly, either odds format. Same tool covers the fiddly ones — trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that’s where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it lives at [url=https://freebet-calculator.com/bet-calculator/lucky-63]calculate lucky 63[/url] and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that actually made a difference were the geekier bits. There’s an odds-to-probability converter which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly calculator — I use half kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The layout is very functional, let’s say — zero flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s usable though the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — doesn’t bother me just flagging it.

    So yeah. Free, barely any ads, does the job. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.

    #1729979 返信
    single_unEa
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    Right — have been messing about with this thing for about five months now and I keep coming back, reckon I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me last week. Am based in the UK, mainly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    What got me on it was honestly embarrassing — I never could work out what an e/w return actually was when the place terms changed. I’d just wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now I type the odds in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator is the bit I open most — you put in your stake, the odds and it spits out the return straight away, fractions or decimals. It also handles the multiples — trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, and that’s where I always lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at [url=https://freebet-calculator.com/bet-calculator/accumulator]doubles accumulator[/url] and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that really shifted things for me were the more serious extras. The probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, plus a kelly calculator — I use half kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit for when I’m splitting a race.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its interface looks very functional, let’s say — no frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. Phone-wise it works although the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s no proper app, just the site — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, barely any ads, works. Anyone who honestly adds it up in their head, give it a go — saves me a fair few arguments with the bookie.

    #1729980 返信
    single_hjEa
    ゲスト

    OK — been using this thing for maybe six months now and I keep coming back, reckon I’d chuck my thoughts in since someone asked me last week. Am in the UK, mostly do football and horses, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I couldn’t ever work out what an each way payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just wing it and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator is the part I open most — you drop in the price and your stake and it spits out profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the multiples — acca and treble returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, which is where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it lives at [url=https://freebet-calculator.com/bet-calculator/matched-betting]matched betting formula[/url] — free, no signup.

    What genuinely changed how I bet was the more serious bits. They’ve got an odds-to-probability calculator and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is decent if I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its interface feels a bit basic — zero flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it’s usable although the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. And nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but worth saying.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, barely any ads, works. If you still works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saves me a load of arguments with the bookie.

    #1729984 返信
    888starz_pcSi
    ゲスト

    Vengo jugando como cinco meses en 888starz y la verdad tenia dudas al principio, porque aqui en Espana uno se cansa de sitios que se caen cada dos por tres. Darse de alta fue cosa de dos minutos, correo, contrasena y listo, y el minimo para depositar es de unos pocos euros, asi puedes tantear sin jugarte el sueldo.

    De tragaperras van sobrados — andan por 8.000 juegos repartidos entre Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Mis habituales son Gates of Olympus y Sweet Bonanza, si bien he tocado tambien los Megaways. Lo que me raya es que el buscador va un poco lento cuando el catalogo es tan bestia.

    La zona en vivo esta llevada por Evolution y se nota la diferencia: mesas con crupier en espanol, los game shows tipo Crazy Time para el que le guste el show. La oferta de entrada ronda el 100% hasta 300€ mas 150 giros, el wagering esta en unas 35 veces, que es lo normal del mercado. Tambien hay bonos sin deposito de vez en cuando, puedes mirar los terminos actualizados desde [url=https://888starz-es2.com/app]888starz download latest version[/url] porque cambian cada mes.

    Los cobros me ha ido mejor de lo que pensaba. Cobre la semana pasada por Skrill y me llego en menos de una hora. Con Visa tarda mas, nada nuevo. Aceptan tambien Neteller, Bitcoin y USDT si no te asusta el tema.

    Desde el movil funciona bien, tienen app para Android si bien la version web hace el mismo apano. La atencion al cliente te contesta en castellano, me atendieron rapido la vez que tuve un lio con la verificacion. Licencia de Curazao, que no es la DGOJ y hay que saberlo antes de entrar. A mi de momento me ha respondido, aunque las promos hay que leerlas con lupa.

    #1729985 返信
    888starz_loSi
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    Vengo jugando como cinco meses con 888starz y para que mentir entre con la mosca detras de la oreja, porque en Espana uno se cansa de paginas que venden humo. Darse de alta me llevo dos minutos, correo y contrasena y ya esta, y el deposito minimo es de unos pocos euros, que para probar viene de lujo.

    De tragaperras van sobrados — hablamos de mas de 7.000 titulos de proveedores como Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Yo tiro mucho de Book of Dead y Gates of Olympus, aunque de vez en cuando pruebo cosas de Big Time Gaming. Lo que me raya es que el filtro por proveedor a veces se atasca cuando hay tantisimo.

    El casino en directo corre a cargo de Evolution y ahi no hay queja: blackjack con gente real, Crazy Time y Monopoly Live para el que le guste el show. La oferta de entrada es de un 100% mas 100 tiradas gratis, hay que apostarlo unas 35 veces, nada raro comparado con otros. Va rotando alguna promo sin deposito, yo miraria los terminos actualizados directamente en [url=https://888starz-es2.com/app-ios]888starz iphone[/url] antes de registrarte.

    Las retiradas va bastante fino. Cobre el otro dia con Skrill y entro casi al momento. Con Visa se va a dos o tres dias, como en todos lados. Aceptan tambien Neteller, Bitcoin y ahi es donde vuela de verdad.

    El movil va suave, hay APK para Android pero yo uso el navegador y me sobra. El chat de ayuda te contesta en castellano, tardaron unos 10 minutos con una duda de documentacion. La licencia es de Curazao, no esta regulado por la DGOJ espanola y eso cada uno que lo valore. A mi de momento me ha respondido, y sin volverse loco con los bonos.

    #1729987 返信
    888starz_mrSi
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    Llevo un par de meses en 888starz y para que mentir tenia dudas al principio, porque aqui en Espana acabas quemado de casinos que prometen mucho. El registro fue cosa de un rato minimo, los datos basicos y fuera, y el minimo para depositar ronda los 1-2 euros, que para probar viene de lujo.

    De slots hay una barbaridad — andan por mas de 7.000 slots entre Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Yo tiro mucho de Sweet Bonanza y Book of Dead, si bien he tocado tambien los Megaways. Lo que me raya es que el filtro por proveedor a veces se atasca cuando hay tantisimo.

    La zona en vivo esta llevada por Evolution y ahi no hay queja: mesas con crupier en espanol, Crazy Time para el que le guste el show. La oferta de entrada es de un 130% y unas 150 tiradas, el wagering esta en unas 35 veces, nada raro comparado con otros. Suele haber bonos sin deposito de vez en cuando, conviene revisar lo que hay vigente directamente en [url=https://888starz-es2.com/payments]888starz deposit problem[/url] antes de registrarte.

    El tema de sacar pasta es lo que mas me ha sorprendido. Saque la semana pasada via e-wallet y entro casi al momento. Con tarjeta tarda mas, como en todos lados. Aceptan tambien Neteller, cripto si no te asusta el tema.

    En el telefono funciona bien, hay APK para Android aunque la web movil me va igual de bien. El soporte esta en espanol, tardaron unos 10 minutos la vez que tuve un lio con la verificacion. La licencia es de Curazao, no esta regulado por la DGOJ espanola y eso cada uno que lo valore. A mi de momento me ha respondido, y sin volverse loco con los bonos.

    #1729988 返信
    888starz_dlSi
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    Ya llevo como cinco meses en 888starz y para que mentir entre con la mosca detras de la oreja, ya que aqui en Espana acabas quemado de casinos que prometen mucho. El registro me llevo dos minutos, correo, contrasena y listo, y el deposito minimo es de 1 euro, que para probar viene de lujo.

    De slots van sobrados — creo que pasan de unos 10.000 slots de proveedores como Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Mis habituales son Book of Dead y Gates of Olympus, eso si de vez en cuando pruebo alguna de Microgaming. La pega es que el buscador va un poco lento cuando hay tantisimo.

    El casino en directo es de Evolution, basicamente y ahi no hay queja: ruletas con crupieres de verdad, Crazy Time que enganchan una barbaridad. El paquete de bienvenida va sobre el 100% hasta 300€ mas 150 giros, con un rollover de x35, que no es regalado pero tampoco un robo. Suele haber alguna promo sin deposito, puedes mirar las condiciones exactas directamente en [url=https://888starz-es2.com/apk]download 888starz apk[/url] antes de meter dinero.

    El tema de sacar pasta me ha ido mejor de lo que pensaba. Cobre hace poco con Skrill y lo tuve en 40 minutos. Con tarjeta se va a dos o tres dias, como en todos lados. Tienen Neteller, cripto y ahi es donde vuela de verdad.

    El movil funciona bien, hay APK para Android aunque la web movil me va igual de bien. El soporte te contesta en castellano, tardaron unos 10 minutos la vez que tuve un lio con la verificacion. Licencia de Curazao, asi que no es un.es regulado y eso cada uno que lo valore. Yo sigo ahi, con sus cosas, y sin volverse loco con los bonos.

    #1729989 返信
    888starz_cror
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    Ya llevo unos cuantos meses en 888starz y la verdad no esperaba gran cosa, ya que por aqui te cansas de paginas que venden humo. El registro fue cosa de tres minutos, los datos basicos y fuera, y el minimo para depositar ronda los 1-2 euros, cosa que agradezco para tantear.

    De tragaperras van sobrados — andan por unos 10.000 titulos entre Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Yo tiro mucho de Book of Dead y Gates of Olympus, si bien tambien le he dado a cosas de Big Time Gaming. La pega es que el filtro por proveedor a veces se atasca cuando tienes 8.000 cosas delante.

    La parte de crupier real corre a cargo de Evolution y eso se nota: ruletas con crupieres de verdad, Crazy Time y Monopoly Live si te va el rollo espectaculo. El bono de bienvenida es de un 100% y unas 150 giros, hay que apostarlo x35, que es lo normal del mercado. Suele haber algun free spin sin deposito, puedes mirar los terminos actualizados directamente en [url=https://888starz-es5.com/registration]888starz registro[/url] antes de meter dinero.

    Los cobros es lo que mas me ha sorprendido. Retire el otro dia con Skrill y entro casi al momento. Con Visa tarda mas, nada nuevo. Tienen Neteller, cripto que es lo mas rapido con diferencia.

    Desde el movil va suave, la app de Android existe si bien la version web hace el mismo apano. El soporte esta en espanol, no fue instantaneo pero tampoco eterno con una duda de documentacion. La licencia es de Curazao, asi que no es un.es regulado y eso cada uno que lo valore. Por ahora no me ha fallado, aunque las promos hay que leerlas con lupa.

    #1729990 返信
    888starz_lgSn
    ゲスト

    Llevo como cinco meses en 888starz y sinceramente tenia dudas al principio, ya que por aqui acabas quemado de casinos que prometen mucho. Abrir la cuenta me llevo un rato minimo, los datos basicos y fuera, y el deposito minimo esta en unos pocos euros, que para probar viene de lujo.

    De tragaperras tienen un catalogo enorme — hablamos de 8.000 titulos entre Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Yo tiro mucho de Gates of Olympus y Sweet Bonanza, eso si de vez en cuando pruebo cosas de Big Time Gaming. La pega es que el buscador va un poco lento cuando el catalogo es tan bestia.

    La zona en vivo esta llevada por Evolution y eso se nota: blackjack con gente real, Crazy Time y Monopoly Live para el que le guste el show. El paquete de bienvenida es de un 130% y unas 150 giros, hay que apostarlo unas 35 veces, nada raro comparado con otros. Va rotando bonos sin deposito de vez en cuando, yo miraria las condiciones exactas desde [url=https://888starz-es6.com/apk]888starz apk download latest version uptodown[/url] porque cambian cada mes.

    El tema de sacar pasta va bastante fino. Retire la semana pasada via e-wallet y me llego en menos de una hora. Con Visa se va a dos o tres dias, eso ya es cosa del banco. Aceptan tambien Neteller, cripto que es lo mas rapido con diferencia.

    En el telefono funciona bien, tienen app para Android si bien la version web hace el mismo apano. La atencion al cliente te contesta en castellano, me atendieron rapido con una duda de documentacion. La licencia es de Curazao, asi que no es un.es regulado y eso cada uno que lo valore. A mi de momento me ha respondido, aunque las promos hay que leerlas con lupa.

    #1729991 返信
    888starz_hyor
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    Ya llevo como cinco meses en 888starz y para que mentir tenia dudas al principio, porque por aqui te cansas de casinos que prometen mucho. Abrir la cuenta fue cosa de un rato minimo, correo y contrasena y ya esta, y el deposito minimo ronda los 1 euro, asi puedes tantear sin jugarte el sueldo.

    En cuanto a maquinas hay una barbaridad — hablamos de 8.000 titulos de proveedores como Pragmatic Play, NetEnt, Play’n GO, Betsoft y Yggdrasil. Mis habituales son Book of Dead y Gates of Olympus, si bien he tocado tambien los Megaways. Lo que si el filtro por proveedor a veces se atasca cuando hay tantisimo.

    La parte de crupier real corre a cargo de Evolution y ahi no hay queja: ruletas con crupieres de verdad, Crazy Time si te va el rollo espectaculo. El paquete de bienvenida es de un 100% hasta 300€ y unas 150 tiradas, con un rollover de x35, que es lo normal del mercado. Tambien hay algun free spin sin deposito, puedes mirar los terminos actualizados desde [url=https://888starz-es5.com/bonus-code]888starz bonus code[/url] antes de meter dinero.

    El tema de sacar pasta va bastante fino. Saque la semana pasada por Skrill y me llego en menos de una hora. Con Visa se va a dos o tres dias, como en todos lados. Tienen Neteller, Bitcoin si no te asusta el tema.

    Desde el movil funciona bien, tienen app para Android si bien la version web hace el mismo apano. El soporte esta en espanol, me atendieron rapido con una duda de documentacion. Licencia de Curazao, no esta regulado por la DGOJ espanola y hay que saberlo antes de entrar. Por ahora no me ha fallado, y sin volverse loco con los bonos.

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